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"Lennon on sale again..."
« on: August 24, 2007, 09:38 AM »

I was listening to the DB song 'Life on Mars' and one of the lyrics says 'Lennons on sale again'.
Is this a refernce to something particular? And What JL songs would have been out in 1973?

(When I write I like to get into the mood/era by listening to the approprite music.)
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2007, 10:07 AM »

John Lennon's fourth solo album - Mind Games - was released in 1973.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2007, 10:14 AM »

oooh, mind games....actually that would be an intresting song to incorperate...
*the wheels in my head are turning*
Thanks.

Erm...what songs were on the album?
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2007, 02:32 PM »

I'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong but Life On Mars is on the Hunky Dorey album and this was released in 1971. I think the John Lennon reference maybe to do with the release of Imagine.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2007, 03:25 PM »

you see i've got the album 'Working class hero' - the definative lennon.
and I wondered what songs were contemporary with the '70's'?
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2007, 02:06 PM »

I thought it was Lenin, not Lennon !
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2007, 07:18 PM »

I thought it was Lenin.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2007, 10:37 AM »

Do you know that website's source? I've always thought it was Lenin, because it ties in more neatly with the previous line:

Quote from: Bowie
Now the workers have struck for fame
 'Cause Lenin's on sale again

Since the song's lyrics are in paired lines (e.g. "See the mice in their million hordes, from Ibiza to the Norfolk Broads" - the Ibiza line makes no sense at all without the previous one) it makes sense to view a connection between the Lenin line and the previous one.

Of course Bowie might have meant a double meaning, given John's politics.

Interestingly, Google gives about 3000 hits for "Lennon's on sale again", versus only 95 for "Lenin's on sale again". There's a cultural measure for you.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2007, 10:40 AM »

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Do you know that website's source?
no. I just googled for the lyrics.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2007, 06:18 PM »

Yes the previous line does suggest that it is Lenin rather Lennon.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2007, 09:20 PM »

Why would Lenin be on sale?

Weird.
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2007, 06:04 PM »

Although 'Lenin's on sale again' would make some vague sense as a comment on the rise of socialist left leaning counter culture politics in the late 60s and start of the 1970s, the official sheet music - and this is on both the versions I have says 'Lennon's on sale again'.

The sources are an original 1973 published  'The Songs of David Bowie' and a more recent copy I bought (in a different key) in order to record it as a backing track for someone.

Finally, and apologies for name dropping, but I asked my friend Trevor Bolder (who played bass on the original and was part of the Spiders) and he said that it was a reference to a John Lennon record Bowie had been given!

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2007, 06:46 PM »

Blimey. Can't argue with a man named Trevor can you.

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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2007, 07:24 PM »

Pleased it has been cleared up. Would love to know what Lennon record Bowie had been given that merited the mention. Thanks Bryan. Will look at the lyrics in a new light.
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